[ It sounds like something that only comes out of fairy tales and he hates that Sansa had to go through such things. But there's a particular phrase that grabs onto him and doesn't let go: I never saw him beaten, but they made him kill. It twists in his gut unpleasantly and he glances away from the feed for a moment because of it. ]
Mm. There are lots of ways to make a person kill without beating them.
[ He thinks of Itachi, all alone, suffering in silence. ]
Sometimes I think the people who are kind are the ones who are seeing the most suffering.
[a sandor, not a gregor, then. that's one small good thing. her mouth tugs to one side, but there isn't a lot of humor in it.]
Sandor never had a chance; his house was sworn to the Queen's. They must have given him to Joffrey for a nameday present. I was the only person he was ever kind to, that I know. [there is the missing little sister. perhaps she was the first little bird.] Well, and my sister, but she seemed very cross about it, when we spoke through the portal. That was her, there, on the fountain.
[arya had blamed him for mycah; sansa had known for some time it was joffrey's fault, just like lady.]
Suffering can make you kind, but it also makes you angry. Sometimes if you're not careful you become angry at the whole world, and you forget to be kind to the people who are suffering like you.
[and sometimes being hurt and angry for too long can corrupt the soul beyond repair, in her world as in this one. she wonders if allen's sword would have been able to save cersei, or lysa arryn.]
[ On the fountain. The girl with the sword who had been stopped on her way to try and do something to save her father. It was the right thing to do, of course, but Sasuke can't help but empathize with the thought. He'd been held back too many times when trying to avenge his own family to not.
Those words hit him like a ton of bricks, though, and it takes him a minute to figure out what to say. It almost seems like he might not say anything at all, even, and he highly debates it. Maybe he ought to run off. GOOD TALK, LADY SANSA, BUT I GOTTA GO.
No, that was a Naruto move. Sasuke's one to just walk off without a word in the past, but he's learned better here. She's been up front and honest with him about her own fears, confessed to lying about her name... He should probably respect her enough to say he's been keeping some rather big things quiet, shouldn't he? ]
My brother couldn't show kindness, despite having a kind heart. The path he was forced on meant he had to seem an enemy to our village. But he kept a kind heart. He was always... thinking of Konoha. Being cruel can be a façade, something... temporary.
[ He likes to think he was thinking of him, too, but maybe that's just a fantasy. Yes, he did it all to save Sasuke, but he'd tortured him to save the village. He's had to accept that.
But that's not the point. He swallows, looking down, the slightest tone of shame in his words. ]
... I was the one who became truly angry at the world. I don't know that you forget others suffer. I ... wanted them to. I wanted the world to hurt as much as I did.
[truth be told what he says about himself sounds more like cersei than anything else, but he speaks in the past tense, as if he's learned better now. sansa nods carefully.]
I can't say that I never felt the same, and I can't say I'm proud of everything I did to survive. I might never have known it was possible, to survive and be kind, if it weren't for my friend the lady Margaery Tyrell. She and her family tried to help me, and everyone said they only wanted an alliance. They did, but they wanted to help people, too. It served them very well. She won over more people with kindness than the Queen Regent ever did with force, or whatever it is she thinks she's doing. Margaery is queen now, and Joffrey's dead, and his mother suffers as I did. I can't say I wasn't glad to see him dead, and it is a comfort to know the Queen Regent feels my pain, but if I am ever to see my home and my family again, on my world, I must be like Lady Margaery and earn the devotion of my allies. And perhaps I can help some people who've suffered as I have while I do it.
[ One thing that Sasuke is learning about these other worlds is that he has no chance of pronouncing so many of the names he hears. Margaery is one he's adding to the list of things he'll probably butcher. Sansa and Arya were much more his pace.
But that's distracting himself from the subject at hand and he knows it. Because he doesn't think he's truly learned. He's afraid of constantly being on the edge of falling apart again, just one more loss away from snapping and killing everyone who's made him prove he's no longer a criminal. ]
My sensei, Kakashi, sounds a lot like your... Lady. [ Nope he's not trying. He trusts her to get he's referencing the woman they're talking about and not her giant wolf. ] He tried to teach me the same. I just didn't know how to listen.
[ There's a beat before he bows his head slightly. ]
You are a better person than I will ever be, Lady Sansa. Even in my attempts towards redemption, I still don't think I've tried to dedicate myself to being kind. I've simply relied on others not knowing how much worse I can be to make allies here.
[her mouth quirks slightly at 'lady.' she understands what he's trying to say, but it's funny, because lady does help her to be...herself, and not alayne stone. she bows her head gracefully at the compliment.]
I want to be good, and kind, and make my father proud. But the truth is, I can be terrible too. I helped a terrible man. He made certain I had no other choice, but--I told you that I liked being Alayne Stone. I could have gone on like that for years, if I hadn't come here. And he wanted to make me like him, I know that now. I think I knew it all along. He wanted a little doll that looked like my mother to play his games with him. Terrible games, that cost people their lives--that cost my mother and father and brother their lives, in the end. I don't only want to be good, I want to be better than him. I want to be better than all of them, because otherwise they will have beaten me. They don't want me to be a Stark of Winterfell, and good and kind and better loved than them, and I can't think of a better revenge than being what they don't want me to be.
[and she can't think of anything worse than becoming like them. but perhaps that's too harsh a sentiment when he's clearly struggling with whatever he's done in the past.]
[ He knows he definitely hasn't changed that much when his gut reaction to her own story makes him want to find whoever tried to make her into such a thing and make them eat their own teeth.
He nods, agreeing that she's chosen the right path. He wishes he had thought the same way when it came to people like Danzo. ]
When you have no other choice, I don't think the actions you take define you. It's when you freely decide to hurt others, to kill them because you want to, that it truly darkens you. I don't see that in you.
[sansa wants to kill littlefinger, too. she plans on it, even. she knows what she'll do if he comes here, and she knows what she'll do if she goes home. he's simply too dangerous to be allowed to exist. some people are. she doesn't think sandor clegane is, and she doesn't think sasuke is either.]
You're right. It's what we do when we have a choice. But Littlefinger was very good at getting people to choose to do what he wanted. That's what made him dangerous, and Lady Margaery too.
It wasn't only that she was kind to me. My parents were kind, and they were killed. It's that I can see now how she does what Cersei and Littlefinger do to beat them at their own stupid game. You don't have to choose between being strong, and being kind. I can use what I learned from what was done to me to help people, and perhaps some good can come of it.
[ He's quiet as he lets himself reflect on her words, a hint of a smile on his face at the end of them. ]
You sound like Sakura.
[ That is so obviously a compliment. Sakura would probably argue she hadn't suffered nearly as much as either of them, but Sasuke doesn't know that that's true. ]
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Mm. There are lots of ways to make a person kill without beating them.
[ He thinks of Itachi, all alone, suffering in silence. ]
Sometimes I think the people who are kind are the ones who are seeing the most suffering.
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Sandor never had a chance; his house was sworn to the Queen's. They must have given him to Joffrey for a nameday present. I was the only person he was ever kind to, that I know. [there is the missing little sister. perhaps she was the first little bird.] Well, and my sister, but she seemed very cross about it, when we spoke through the portal. That was her, there, on the fountain.
[arya had blamed him for mycah; sansa had known for some time it was joffrey's fault, just like lady.]
Suffering can make you kind, but it also makes you angry. Sometimes if you're not careful you become angry at the whole world, and you forget to be kind to the people who are suffering like you.
[and sometimes being hurt and angry for too long can corrupt the soul beyond repair, in her world as in this one. she wonders if allen's sword would have been able to save cersei, or lysa arryn.]
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Those words hit him like a ton of bricks, though, and it takes him a minute to figure out what to say. It almost seems like he might not say anything at all, even, and he highly debates it. Maybe he ought to run off. GOOD TALK, LADY SANSA, BUT I GOTTA GO.
No, that was a Naruto move. Sasuke's one to just walk off without a word in the past, but he's learned better here. She's been up front and honest with him about her own fears, confessed to lying about her name... He should probably respect her enough to say he's been keeping some rather big things quiet, shouldn't he? ]
My brother couldn't show kindness, despite having a kind heart. The path he was forced on meant he had to seem an enemy to our village. But he kept a kind heart. He was always... thinking of Konoha. Being cruel can be a façade, something... temporary.
[ He likes to think he was thinking of him, too, but maybe that's just a fantasy. Yes, he did it all to save Sasuke, but he'd tortured him to save the village. He's had to accept that.
But that's not the point. He swallows, looking down, the slightest tone of shame in his words. ]
... I was the one who became truly angry at the world. I don't know that you forget others suffer. I ... wanted them to. I wanted the world to hurt as much as I did.
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I can't say that I never felt the same, and I can't say I'm proud of everything I did to survive. I might never have known it was possible, to survive and be kind, if it weren't for my friend the lady Margaery Tyrell. She and her family tried to help me, and everyone said they only wanted an alliance. They did, but they wanted to help people, too. It served them very well. She won over more people with kindness than the Queen Regent ever did with force, or whatever it is she thinks she's doing. Margaery is queen now, and Joffrey's dead, and his mother suffers as I did. I can't say I wasn't glad to see him dead, and it is a comfort to know the Queen Regent feels my pain, but if I am ever to see my home and my family again, on my world, I must be like Lady Margaery and earn the devotion of my allies. And perhaps I can help some people who've suffered as I have while I do it.
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But that's distracting himself from the subject at hand and he knows it. Because he doesn't think he's truly learned. He's afraid of constantly being on the edge of falling apart again, just one more loss away from snapping and killing everyone who's made him prove he's no longer a criminal. ]
My sensei, Kakashi, sounds a lot like your... Lady. [ Nope he's not trying. He trusts her to get he's referencing the woman they're talking about and not her giant wolf. ] He tried to teach me the same. I just didn't know how to listen.
[ There's a beat before he bows his head slightly. ]
You are a better person than I will ever be, Lady Sansa. Even in my attempts towards redemption, I still don't think I've tried to dedicate myself to being kind. I've simply relied on others not knowing how much worse I can be to make allies here.
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I want to be good, and kind, and make my father proud. But the truth is, I can be terrible too. I helped a terrible man. He made certain I had no other choice, but--I told you that I liked being Alayne Stone. I could have gone on like that for years, if I hadn't come here. And he wanted to make me like him, I know that now. I think I knew it all along. He wanted a little doll that looked like my mother to play his games with him. Terrible games, that cost people their lives--that cost my mother and father and brother their lives, in the end. I don't only want to be good, I want to be better than him. I want to be better than all of them, because otherwise they will have beaten me. They don't want me to be a Stark of Winterfell, and good and kind and better loved than them, and I can't think of a better revenge than being what they don't want me to be.
[and she can't think of anything worse than becoming like them. but perhaps that's too harsh a sentiment when he's clearly struggling with whatever he's done in the past.]
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He nods, agreeing that she's chosen the right path. He wishes he had thought the same way when it came to people like Danzo. ]
When you have no other choice, I don't think the actions you take define you. It's when you freely decide to hurt others, to kill them because you want to, that it truly darkens you. I don't see that in you.
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You're right. It's what we do when we have a choice. But Littlefinger was very good at getting people to choose to do what he wanted. That's what made him dangerous, and Lady Margaery too.
It wasn't only that she was kind to me. My parents were kind, and they were killed. It's that I can see now how she does what Cersei and Littlefinger do to beat them at their own stupid game. You don't have to choose between being strong, and being kind. I can use what I learned from what was done to me to help people, and perhaps some good can come of it.
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You sound like Sakura.
[ That is so obviously a compliment. Sakura would probably argue she hadn't suffered nearly as much as either of them, but Sasuke doesn't know that that's true. ]
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Thank you!
[she wonders how sakura would have done in king's landing. she wonders if sakura ever ended up punching the cobra kai man.]
I should like to be half as good as helping people as she is.
[she wants to learn to do what sakura does, but at the same time the thought of it is exhausting.]
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Just make sure you're better about taking care of yourself, too. She lacks that skill most of the time.